
Tax Chats is a weekly podcast hosted by accounting professors Scott Dyreng (Duke) and Jeff Hoopes (UNC). Each episode features conversations with researchers, historians, policymakers, and practitioners about how taxes shape the world around us — from current legislative debates to the history of the tax system and everything in between.

Taxes touch every aspect of society, including who rules, where factories are built, what people drink, what car they buy, when they have children, and when they die. Scott Dyreng (Duke) and Jeff Hoopes (UNC), two accounting professors, chat about taxes, including current events, with the energy of an over-caffeinated chihuahua. Listening is guaranteed to be far more entertaining than actually paying your taxes.
Jeff and Scott interview Danny Werfel, a former IRS commissioner under President Obama and President Biden. They talk about his background, the request from President Obama and Biden that he lead the IRS, challenges and opportunities he encountered at the IRS, and what he would change about the agency if he were IRS King for a day.

